37 years -

**tomt** · July 21st, 2010, 11:24 PM

I purchased these speakers in 1973. They work beautifully - very loud but clean sound. I now live in an apartment and will not be able to use them again as speakers. They have provided me with the beautiful clean sounds of my favorite artists for 37 years. Pink Floyd will never sound the same to me again but I hope that whoever buys them will enjoy them for another 37 years.

**Cal Weldon** · July 21st, 2010, 11:53 PM

Santana's. Nice to see them still pumping out the Floyd.

**analog addict** · July 22nd, 2010, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Cal Weldon

Santana's. Nice to see them still pumping out the Floyd.

Mmmmm I beg to differ.

Madrids, prolly 872B's.

I have an identical set with the front arched grills.

**Cal Weldon** · July 22nd, 2010, 12:59 PM

Thanks for the correction.
I obviously don't know them well enough to tell the difference. Is it only the grilles? The components look the same? How about the box?

**analog addict** · July 23rd, 2010, 07:36 AM

I'm by no means a Santana expert, but IIRC, many of them had a stone or slate top.

Here's a typical set of 879A's....

Here's another...

I do think you're correct in thinking that the components are the same. Here's an interestring factoid about the 420 I didn't know, copied from the LH board....

You have three kind of 420.
The 420-8a with white frame
the 420-8b with black frame from the 416 and the magnet in ticonal
the 420-8c with the frame of the 416-8B and the magnet in alnico.

Also, as you prolly know, 420's can be reconed as 416's by GPA.

Lastly, IMO, the Madrid's capture much of the Altec magic, although the OEM tweeter is essentially useless. I think a real interesting project for the long term would be optimizing a tweeter or midrange/tweeter for the Madrids.

I wonder if an 811 horn could be adapted to fit in that cabinet?

EDIT: I forgot to mention, one of the nice things about the 872B is that the front baffle board is removable, and by the above pix, same with the Santana.

It allows for some easy tinkering with the driver load while maintaining your original board in pristine condition if so desired

**Old Guy** · July 23rd, 2010, 08:18 AM

I think there is enough room to fit a 32b and 902 in there...

Parts Express makes a waveguide...

Dayton H07E 6" x 6" Elliptical Waveguide 1" Threaded | Parts-Express.com

and mebbe a BMS driver...

Overview

**bowtie427ss** · July 23rd, 2010, 08:53 AM

Mmmmm I beg to differ.

Madrids, prolly 872B's.

Good eye!

I'm by no means a Santana expert, but IIRC, many of them had a stone or slate top.

"simulated" slate........................ but you won't leave drink rings on em, and they're pretty resistant to burns too.

I think there is enough room to fit a 32b and 902 in there...

The removable baffle presents a host of possibilities.

I think i'd find a way to stuff the MR 931 in there, $20.40 ea at GPA.

**analog addict** · July 23rd, 2010, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Old Guy

I think there is enough room to fit a 32b and 902 in there...

Parts Express makes a waveguide...

Dayton H07E 6" x 6" Elliptical Waveguide 1" Threaded | Parts-Express.com

The Zilch inspired Econowave set up huh?

Originally Posted by Old Guy

and mebbe a BMS driver...

Overview

BMS...OG say it ain't so!??!!!:snickerpup:

**Old Guy** · July 23rd, 2010, 09:18 AM

That BMS is a really nice driver....cheap too...you can buy it new for about 50 bucks more than an Altec fram..

Would be nice to have an Altec there though...

Bowtie's idea with the small Mantaray holds promise...